Saint Nicolas in The Netherlands

Saint Nicolaas (Sinterklaas as we call it in The Netherlands) needs a bit of explanation.  It is a tradition from long ago. The story: a bishop, declared holy, called Saint Nicolaas, gives presents to little children on his birthday, the 5th of December. He arrives on a steam ship (yeah.. right..) from Spain. And he has helpers who climb down the chimneys (….) to deliver the presents in each house. The presents are put in the shoe of the children who have placed them near the fire place (… in an appartment?). Children put a carrot in the shoe for the white horse of Saint Nicolaas. It is a bit like Santa Claus at Christmas with reindeers. You can also read a funny explanation of this tradition on the site Stuff Dutch people like.

This is the good bit. Now the controversy, or better said, the battle which is going on around Saint Nicolaas. 

You see, Saint Nicolaas has little helpers called black Piet (pronounced Pete). And that divides our country for the past years. One part of the country says: “black Piet doesn’t originate from slavery, his role was equal to Saint Nicolaas, so leave this lovely tradition alone”. The other part says: “the way black Piet is depicted is an insult to black people and we have to do everything to fight racism. This sets a bad example”. I am totally of the latter opinion. I know black Piet was perhaps not meant racist in the old days but that is most certainly how you would perceive it nowadays. So away with it.

Now.. what is the outcome? Well, we are not there yet. We have had rainbow coloured Piets, but that didn’t seem to catch on (see this explanation on Stuff Dutch people like). There could be many solutions. For instance heralds instead of black Piets and they could be red, yellow, white and black.

Ron and I went to a shopping mall in Amsterdam (Gelderlandplein), where Saint Nicolaas was to arrive (…). There would also be an orchestra of Piets. Great background for outfit photos and no wind, no cold, reasonable amount of light.

Below: the solution of the battle this day was not to apply thick black make-up and big red lips, but to smudge the black make-up and no red lips. Explanation: they are smudged because of the climbing down chimneys. This is such a Dutch solution. We always go for the compromise. In everything. To me this is not the solution but at least it is a step in the right direction.

Saint Nicolas

Below: for the children it is still very exciting and they love to dress up like Piet.

Saint Nicolas

Below: or like Saint Nicolaas which is relatively new. I suppose that is the easiest way to avoid the conflict.

Saint Nicolas

What was I wearing? To begin with a coat. This brown coat is very old, 10 years? More? I cannot remember. It is a classic and by Marella. The scarf is ancient, about 25 years old.

Below: looking a bit strange haha. Bag is Longchamps and boots are Hugo Boss (at least 5 years old). Yes darlings, I do wear my stuff more than once. Although my husband says I do not wear anything more than three times. Not true.


Soon I took the coat off as the temperatures were lovely in the mall.

Below: this is what I was wearing underneath. Top and skirt by Essentiel and opaque tights by Wolford. The skirt has pockets which seems to be a big thing with many women. Personally I couldn’t care less whether a dress or skirt has pockets or not.

Fuchsia top and green skirt by Essentiel

Below: fun background.

Fuchsia top and green skirt by Essentiel

Below: black and grey and beige are such popular colours. Brrr.

Fuchsia top and green skirt by Essentiel

Below: Piets throw (and give) candy. This little fellow was optimistic and took a whole bag with him to take the loot of candy back home. He is checking how much he has been able to collect.

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Below: these little children were adorable. See the ice skating “rink” behind me? With chairs to hold on to.

Saint Nicolas

Below: I quite like this picture Ron took of me. I even like my wrinkles.


Below: a shopping cart as art piece.


Below: different styling of the top. A rather distorted iPhone picture. I just learned that you have to put your camera lower, facing upwards, otherwise you get short legs. Whereof deed. You saw the necklace before in this post. And the Eijk boots in this post.

Fuchsia top and jeans

Below: and another iPhone picture. My ancient scarf, now worn with a black coat and brown boots from the Max Mara outlet (you have seen them before). Together with the messenger bag they make a nice outfit.


Thanks to Ron, we had a little adventure to report about. Remember to check your shoe on the 5th of December to see whether there is a present in it.








  1. Marianne van den Berg
    20 November 2016 / 17:39

    You did it again. To report something about the peculiar habits of the dutch. This item made it even to the United Nation. Accusing us of discrimination. I can only see it as a childrens event. But the grown ups make it to a big item. You could easily mingle with this colorfull event. You are dressed for it. If you look around you every one is dressed in dark dull colors. Fuchsia is a very becoming color for you. Nice combination. And I am very proud of you that you made it as a role model in a real book.

    • Greetje
      20 November 2016 / 21:11

      Oops I forgot to mention my role model in the book, didn’t I? Maybe I should rectify that.

  2. 20 November 2016 / 18:26

    What an interesting tradition Greetje! And really, how wonderful that the Dutch compromise. Because that’s real life and what we all should do that!!
    I love how you were wearing pink tights under that skirt—I only glimpsed this when you were sitting with the children, but it adds so much fun to the outfit!
    Your comment about the pockets in your skirt is exactly how I feel too! Why the need really? If I’m standing around with my husband, we’re usually holding hands and if I’m shopping —both hand are extremely busy looking at all of the great items!
    Thanks and Happy Sunday!

    • Greetje
      20 November 2016 / 21:15

      And … hands in your pockets doesn’t improve the look of the skirt. I think it is very sweet that you are still holding hands with your husband. Really nice. Keep on doing that.
      Ron didn’t like the fuchsia tights. He said it looked as if I was wearing a onesie haha. This time I ignored his advice. Black was too obvious.

  3. 20 November 2016 / 20:05

    I remember that we always celebrated Sinter Claas at home whem I was a kid. Nice to see a photo of the original look. I remember a look-a-like once visiting our house. don’t you think the costume is so much nicer than that of Santa Claus?

    • Greetje
      20 November 2016 / 21:16

      Yes the costume is more elaborate. But the story is getting hard to believe. I mean, chimneys, horse on the roof, steam boat?? Time to adjust.

  4. 20 November 2016 / 20:58

    One of our cities here had an annual Sinterklaas parade…and Saint Nicolas arrived via boat just like in The Netherlands. And yes…black Piet was part of the celebration. Some years back there was a lot of dissent over Piet. It was proposed that he no longer be a part of the event, but there was disagreement about that too. So the event was cancelled in it’s entirety.

    Love that you have fuchsia tights peeking out beneath your skirt. An unexpected and delightful pop of colour!

    • Greetje
      20 November 2016 / 21:22

      I read a bit about Sinterklaas and the tradition has been adjusted several times in the past. No reason why we cannot “update” the tradition again. Besides a good solution for the Piets, we can also find a different story for the chimney climbing, the fire place, the horse on the roof and the steam boat. As all those things need updating.
      There must be a bunch of Dutchies in Canada to celebrate Sinterklaas. Isn’t it sad that instead of coming to a solution, they had to cancel the whole event? It is becoming rather a vicious debate in The Netherlands.

  5. 21 November 2016 / 00:26

    I think it is so interesting that you basically have Christmas a whole 20 days prior to most other countries.

    I’m in love with the last outfit. So classy.

    That is a great profile pic.

    A shoe AND cake? Seems like heaven to me : P


    • Greetje
      21 November 2016 / 07:36

      You know that last picture of me in the black coat and brown boots got the most likes on IG since I joined IG. Never would have thought that.
      And Ron and I don’t celebrate Sinterklaas nor Christmas. So no presents for us in December.

  6. Marilee Gramith
    21 November 2016 / 05:56

    Once again you have shared some really interesting information and visuals of Dutch culture and the impact of modern attitudes and ethics on long standing traditions. I just love this stuff! I can see the need for rethinking and adjusting to be more respectful of ALL the people who celebrate this holiday. Change is usually very slow when a tradition is as old as this one.
    You look lovely in these pictures Greetje. Your smile reflects the fun you’re having. That hot pink is very flattering on you and I too like the pink tights!! Your black coat with the lovely scarf, bag and boots are very chique! Vogue magazine chique!!

    • Greetje
      21 November 2016 / 07:39

      The black coat photo gets a lot of approval. Never anticipated that. I think “elegant” is in again. Thanks for the compliments. It was a post done at the last minute. I was beginning to despair. But Ron saved the day.

  7. Gloria Williams
    21 November 2016 / 08:01

    The fuschia looks stunning on you! I’m new to your blog, but will be following. Thank you!

    • Greetje
      21 November 2016 / 08:30

      Oh goodie, another reader. How nice. Thank you for joining and for the compliment. I hope to keep you entertained for a long time.

  8. 21 November 2016 / 11:39

    I have a few Dutch friends and of course this divides us. One has been Piet (never seen a female version before) a couple of times and doesn’t have a problem with it. All of the Dutchies I know defend the tradition but for me the makeup is far too racist. Black form the soot in the chimneys to me means a swipe of sooty makeup on the cheeks and forehead not full on blacking up. And the golliwog features of the lips in particular really seals the deal for me. I think the makeup really should be revised or not be there at all. I do like this tradition of Sinterklaas and his little helper and I know about the tradition more so than my fellow Brits but I do have to object to the makeup used. On another note I love bright colour and I’m glad to see the standout fuchsia on you even though it’s not my colour

    • Greetje
      21 November 2016 / 21:43

      Thanks Selina and I agree with you. I know the black Piets are not meant racist but in the last 50 years Sinterklaas has become more superior and the Piets more foolish etc, which I don’t like about it either and the black faces are perceived as racist. Why would you want that? It is so much nicer and easier to do it differently. Like for instance no make-up and any skincolour there is. They can still dress up in their costumes. Only uncle Joe cannot play Piet anymore as he cannot hide behind the make-up haha.

  9. 21 November 2016 / 12:48

    Adorable photos of you Greetje. Loving this post – but OMG are we Swiss always behind??? We have a similar thing but it’s on the 6th December – one day later – hehe! You can adopt the Swiss approach instead of your Piet we have a “Schmutzli” probably deriving from the word “Schmutz” in German, meaning dirt.

    Have a fabulous day!
    xx Yvonne

    • Greetje
      21 November 2016 / 21:45

      Oh yes that is the same solution over here: smudge (= schmutz), but they still have too much black on their face. And Sinterklaas celebrates his birthday on the 5th, but he gives the presents in the evening, which means you will find them on … the 6th haha. And the Swiss are always on time.

      • 22 November 2016 / 08:18

        Oh feeling relieved that the Swiss are on time after all 😉

        xx Yvonne

  10. 21 November 2016 / 21:47

    We don’t celebrate st Nicholas in Italy but have something similar on the 6th of January. The controversy is a sign of the times and sometimes we have to choose between traditions and the ” politically correct “. The same happens here ( on different subjects) but I haven’t chosen my way yet…

    Fuchsia is a vitaminic colour, but I can’t easily match it in winter … your combination with green is not bad at all!

    I will keep an eye on my shoes … you can never know!! 🙂

    • Greetje
      22 November 2016 / 05:59

      I think fuchsia and green match bevause red and green are complementary colours. But fuchsia with blue or black or cream is also nice. I always feel more radiant in a colour like that.
      Don’t hope too hard to find something in your shoe. I have given up years ago.?

  11. 21 November 2016 / 22:42

    I have been reading a your national debate in the papers. So thanks for clarifying a bit. We celebrate Dec 6th Santa Claus but never actually get to see him chimney and all…:)

    Thanks for the photo tip. And love the boots Greetje! Have a great week! Sabina

    • Greetje
      22 November 2016 / 06:02

      Thanks for stopping by Sabine. In the greater scheme of things this debate is rather stupid, but the underlying problem (racism) is big enough. The boots are so classic, they can last me another six years. They were a good investment.

  12. 22 November 2016 / 15:57

    I love to read about your Dutch traditions and the stories that you tell are always a delight. Of course, with more than a touch of humor.

    How wonderful that your pink top exploded on the scene of grey and beige. Leave it to you to express joy!

    • Greetje
      22 November 2016 / 17:59

      I was fibbing a bit as I had taken my coat off which was brown haha. Thank you for the compliments. Did you know that Advanced Style commented “lovely” on one of my Instagram outfit photos? I was very honoured.

  13. 22 November 2016 / 19:47

    i love your skirt!!! fabric, color, cut – and the pockets 🙂
    i face a lot of situations where a handbag goes in the way – so storing lipbalm, handkerchief, keys and some money in the pockets of my skirt or dress is essential.
    wonderful combo of that forest green with bright barbie pink! so chic!
    that portrait of you is just beautiful!

    • Greetje
      22 November 2016 / 22:09

      Thanks Beate. I am very pleased with this outfit myself. I also wear it with a yellow jumper and cognac boots (coming up soon on the blog). But I have the shop assistent to thank for this fuchsia/green ensemble.

  14. 22 November 2016 / 22:26

    The pop of pink looks fabulous on you Greetje. I love that you wore pink tights too – I would have done exactly the same thing! (See, we do have some style ideas that are the same.) The skirt is a great shape and all the better for having pockets – surely you agree it’s nice to have something to do with your hands during these photo shoots? Our husbands have no idea how often we wear our clothes but these pieces are working out very well for cost-per-wear if they’re that old. Thanks for all the background to your Santa tradition, and thanks for all of the lovely shots of the event.
    Have a good week x

    • Greetje
      23 November 2016 / 08:09

      Oh yes Anna, we definitely share outfit ideas too. Actually I was thinking of you when Ron said he didn’t like the pink tighs with it. I thought: “come on girl, step it up a bit, Anna would do this withiout another thought”. Always funny to see how fellow bloggers influence me. Daniela of The Pretty Cute influences me a lot too, and she is totally elegant and a lady.

  15. 23 November 2016 / 01:45

    I think we need to go with the times but I also think that it may be the beginning of the end of this tradition, which is a shame as I have such fond memories of it. In many ways it’s very special with all the many rimes and songs associated with it. So much better than father christmas (which we don’t really have in Holland)! It had nothing to do with black versus white, but yes from the outside looking in, I can see that it looks like a strange and very politically incorrect tradition. Abroad I always felt a bit uncomfortable explaining it. And certainly when it offends people, it needs to change. I think makeup is key though as I feel that sinterklaas en piets were not really meant to look like normal people so perhaps rainbow colors is the way to go…

    • Greetje
      23 November 2016 / 08:11

      Ah, the tradition has changed so much over the years (and centuries). It can survice with a little bit of updating. And I don’t agree about the make-up. The clothes make if different as well.

  16. Luisa
    23 November 2016 / 19:42

    I applaud your honesty.My daughter lives in Ghent, in Belgium, where they celebrate St Nicholas exactly in the same way. She has a little boy aged 2years and 5 months. A Londoner, born and bred, she is totally appalled by this tradition; it creates tension between her and the Flemish in –laws, as she does not want her son to be brought up with a tradition that, in her opinion, is racist.

    • Greetje
      23 November 2016 / 20:53

      I know. Being brought up with this tradition I never questioned it, because I never looked at it that way. But now that the debate is on, I can see the point. And I don’t think you should continue something which is wrong just because you like all the good stuff it also brings. Keep the good stuff and find a solution for the bad. That is my point of view and as this is my blog, I can say what I want ???. I answer to nobody. No boss, no advertisers.

  17. 23 November 2016 / 21:12

    The new blog heading with Anne’s sketch of you is great.

    Your coats are always very elegant – clean lines and a sleek silhouette. We have a fairly large Dutch population in Canada (there was a large wave of immigration during WWII) and so I had heard of Black Piet and Saint Nicholaas, and the presents in the shoes.

    I really like the head shot that Ron took of you in profile too. I thing that those of us who blog seem more likely to get used to our faces (and perhaps feel more kindly towards them) because we are looking at photos of ourselves more often than other women our age. I could be completely wrong about that – perhaps we obsess about them more?

    • Greetje
      24 November 2016 / 05:54

      Because we take more photos of ourselves than average, we have more chance to find one that is good haha. All the others are simply deleted. I sometimes wonder when looking at old photos and thinking”but I looked really nice back then. What a shame I never realized that”. Was I looking nicer than I thought at the time? Or did I only keep the flattering photos? ?.

  18. Melissa
    24 November 2016 / 11:53

    Greetje, I really want to thank you for how you handled this post. You know I was actually kind of worried when I saw the first photo. I am in total agreement with your ideas:)

    Being raised in another country I am still very traditional when it comes to holidays. So I love the tradition of SinterKlaas, I get why parents want to keep it for their kids also and they should be able to.
    It is a simple fix, and has no need to be blown up into such an international incident. Lightening the makeup to look like smudged charcoal is actually making it more accurate to the story of Zwarte Piet going down the chimney and getting dark from all the chimney soot. So it shouldn’t be a problem and teaches children the “real story,” much better than some blacked out face which can hurt another persons feelings.

    We are becoming a very international country and want to compete for international business and have a say in the world’s decisions, then we have to look at how we present ourselves to the world.
    We as Dutch are supposed to be known for our open mindedness, so why are people being so close minded over this subject I don’t understand?

    I feel it is extremely ignorant and selfish (sorry for the harsh wording) that some can’t even make a small adjustment to not hurt other people in their own community. If they really cared about their children and traditions then they would go back to what the story originally was and not use this subject, a truly wonderful child’s holiday and twist it into something about taking a stance and saying it is our country our tradition and if you don’t like it leave (crazy thing is where would these Dutch citizens that also believe it isn’t right, go?). It only hurts the children in the end because this type of actions are only eventually going to get it cancelled or changed into something unrecognizable from what is was meant to be.

    While working for an international company here in the Netherlands, it was Sinterklaas time, and our new boss from America was here and one of the Dutch bosses “explained” Sinterklaas to him. He said, “we get the black people to carry our bags for us here.” Yes he said that, I kid you not, and laughed about it!
    The American boss and I were so shocked and uncomfortable we had no idea what to say.
    I will never forget that, and is exactly why this tradition should be adjusted a bit, to not feed the idiots like that guy.

    As for the English lady that is having difficulties with the in laws over the tradition in Belgium, it shouldn’t even be up for discussion. Your child, your beliefs, your tradition. They raised their kids to celebrate their traditions, you raise your kids with your traditions. They have to accept/respect the fact that their daughter in law is from another country and will not always raise her children with the same traditions. Her husband should absolutely support her in this and not try to appease both parties. He married a foreign woman and has to expect she will not change her whole being to appease the locals.
    I am sure there are some things/traditions she has that they support or like, and that is the point they can’t pick and choose, they need to respect that she is the parent.
    I know the comments she probably gets (I have heard them myself). You live here the children are raised here bla bla bla. Well that may be a fact, but the point is, you can move to another country have respect for the local laws and beliefs but it doesn’t mean that you have to participate in them if you don’t believe in them. Only thing I say, when you live in another country your beliefs and actions shouldn’t go against any laws of the country you move to. Other than that, it is rude to expect an immigrant to completely change who they are what they believe just to satisfy the local population.

    In the comfort of my home just like I would no matter where I live in the world, I will live by what I feel is right.

    Very touchy subject, I have seen so much aggression over the years not only to others but myself.
    Discussions every lunch at work why I am not eating a boterham with only one slice of meat or cheese….. Got so I quit eating in the lunch room.
    I don’t only blame the Dutch for this, when living in America I saw the same type of comments and discussions to foreigners. It is what we as humans do, instead of celebrating or sharing the differences we want to put a person in a hoek to conform:(

    By the way I loooooooove your outfit! The boots are fab! I also agree the side photo Ron took is lovely:)

    • Greetje
      25 November 2016 / 09:04

      Dear Melissa, it is unbelievable how much people can hurt each other. And for no reason other than to think they are right, so you must be wrong. And the remark of one of the Dutch bosses about carrying the bags.. I am deeply ashamed of my fellow countrymen. Just the other day when I was interviewing a group of service providers in an area of Amsterdam with a lot of foreign citizens I heard an older guy saying similar things, like “they cannot read or write”, while his colleagues were “they” as well. I was so shocked I didn’t know what to do and now I feel ashamed I didn’t take a stand there and then.
      I have had well-meaning friends saying I shouldn’t take a stand on the Piet subject on my blog. And I totally disagreed. It is my blog and I want to express my feelings.

  19. 24 November 2016 / 19:35

    What a lovely post! We should keep our traditions, and celebrate them. Racist? Well, maybe we read too much into it. ‘Political correctness’ can get a bit out of hand sometimes. Just as we should never ask people of other faiths and ethnic origins to change or adjust their cherished traditions, we should not change ours. Many different traditions can co-exist, that’s what I believe.
    Besides, Santa Claus lives in Lapland, in a place called Korvatunturi. And he has time to visit every child in person, on Christmas Eve, around 6 o’clock. And he doesn’t need a chimney, he just rings the doorbell. How do I know this? Because I was a child once…

    • Greetje
      25 November 2016 / 09:12

      As Melissa said before you: the Piet discussion is easily fixed without losing anything vital to this tradition. You just have to want to meet half way. You have to want to give a little so others won’t feel hurt.
      One fix would be Santa Claus indeed haha.

  20. 25 November 2016 / 22:45

    A lovely tradition, the way you describe it with just a bit of smudge from going down the chimneys.. I wish we were that inclusive, and we were, and I am, but the country is changing, and I am so sad.
    but I am happy to see you looking so beautiful in the gorgeous skirt , and coat and scarf, and the sweet faces of children gathered round looking happy. I envy your culture, I am pray for mine.

    It is funny how these stories bend a bit for each culture .
    We have Santa here and elves, little guys with big ears that are not , so far as I know controversial.
    Oh, gosh just red your last response to Melissa, we should all be thinking it terms of ‘US” , fellow citizens.
    much love, Elle

    • Greetje
      25 November 2016 / 23:09

      I totally agree with you Elle. I know you do.

  21. 26 November 2016 / 02:28

    Yes, if only more women were in power.
    sending sincere hugs to you, sweet friend.
    xx, Elle

  22. Melissa
    28 November 2016 / 14:06

    Greetje, thank you so much for your beautiful comments. Because of your fun outfits and even more now your openness to be fair minded and not afraid to say what you feel is right, makes me come back to your site more and more.

    The hubby and I “discussed” the subject this weekend. Sometimes I just don’t get it, takes the opposite opinion even though what he says makes no sense at all. I wonder if this is a Dutch guy thing? Don’t mean that in a mean way, but I had a boyfriend years ago here that also did the same thing. I mean crazy, talked about the civil war he sided with the Southerners knowing I was a Northerner and was glad slavery was abolished. We would discuss WWII at length he took the side of the Germans and he is Dutch! Hahaha then I knew it was just to get me wound up. So I gave up on those discussions and for many other reasons the relationship.

    Anyway I saw some Zwarte Piets this weekend and said to my husband, why can’t they just use a bit of coal on their face? Why completely black with the red lips? It looks like America back in the 40’s with their slave cartoon caricatures. Hubby isn’t much of a talker but he said because it is “Zwarte,” Piet. I gave him the hand single and just said stop right there because I may not like you if you talk too much, is better when you are quiet…
    He like many just say because that is tradition. Well stoning is tradition in some extreme areas in the middle and farther east but doesn’t mean it is a good one…. (OK dramatic comparison but still a point)

    I grew up in 70’s America, when they called people mixed with native American and white, half breeds:( I know I got called that a few times. And now, go figure it is way way cool to say you are an Indian.

    So traditions can change for the better it just takes one voice to speak up, and then another and then another. Without anger or blame, and it shouldn’t be a heated discussion. I understand those that want the tradition and the only way to get it changed to a more friendly holiday for all is with gentle requests, slight changes and an understanding tone in our speech. My Grandpi always said we get more with honey than vinegar, and he was right.

    • Greetje
      1 December 2016 / 06:22

      I totally agree with you Melissa. Why not give in a little on what you love (tradition, Zwarte Piet) when you see it hurts other people? It is like a war fought from the trenches. Nobody moves.
      And we have the same saying in Dutch as your Grandpa: je vangt meer vliegen met honing dan met azijn.

      • Melissa
        1 December 2016 / 11:12

        hahaha, leuk! Yeah more with honey than vinegar, the thing is I remember my Mommy always say Melissa, you are so full of piss and vinegar! When I was being cantankerous:) That may be a new word for you, because actually I never hear native English speakers using it anymore, but it is a great descriptive word to use and should be brought back into vogue.
        Now I may be known as a bit of a pot mixer….

        bad-tempered, argumentative, and uncooperative.
        “he can be a cantankerous old fossil at times”
        synonyms: bad-tempered, irascible, irritable, grumpy, grouchy, crotchety, tetchy, testy, crusty, curmudgeonly, ill-tempered, ill-natured, ill-humoured, peevish, cross, as cross as two sticks, fractious, disagreeable, pettish, crabbed, crabby, waspish, prickly, peppery, touchy, scratchy, splenetic, shrewish, short-tempered, hot-tempered, quick-tempered, dyspeptic, choleric, bilious, liverish, cross-grained;

        • Greetje
          1 December 2016 / 12:24

          Hahaha.. thank you for increasing my vocabulary.

  23. 30 November 2016 / 23:43

    I saw your first photo and was afraid to come here in! Heh. I know you, so I did. And am glad I did, of course. I think it’s time get rid of black-faced white dudes. So not cool now. I hope there is a way, as you say, to find a compromise so the sides don’t kill each other over this.

    You are like a colourful flower standing among all those people dressed in neutrals. Wonderful. I’m happy to see the celebrating going on, the festive atmosphere. And I love the photo of you with the droll expression. Brave post, Greetje. I think it’s good to get it out. Where are we without dialogue?

    • Greetje
      1 December 2016 / 06:25

      It looks like it is going to be more of an evolution, than a revolution but still, things are shifting. Takes a hell of a long time though. And I always speak my mind, you know that, so I do that on my blog too. If someone disagrees thats fine.

      • 1 December 2016 / 07:16

        I think evolutions have more staying power and lasting peace than revolutions. I love how there is freedom for all views here, Greetje.

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